[讨论]关于供应科纸塑包装材料

战台风

<font size="5">灭菌物品用纸塑包装材料保存固然很好，但是所有的灭菌物品都采用，对于科室来说成本比较高。我还是建议不常用的灭菌物品采用此包装，别的就采用储槽及布类包装。可是我们供应科的护士长很牛噢，一些使用频率非常快小器械非要用纸塑包装灭菌，要不然不给清洗!自己清洗打包。所以，想做到医院各科室物品由供应科中心供应有点难!科室要考虑成本嘛!</font>

楚楚

<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>战台风</i>在2007-5-11 22:47:47的发言：</b><br/><font size="5">灭菌物品用纸塑包装材料保存固然很好，但是所有的灭菌物品都采用，对于科室来说成本比较高。我还是建议不常用的灭菌物品采用此包装，别的就采用储槽及布类包装。可是我们供应科的护士长很牛噢，一些使用频率非常快小器械非要用纸塑包装灭菌，要不然不给清洗!自己清洗打包。所以，想做到医院各科室物品由供应科中心供应有点难!科室要考虑成本嘛!</font></div><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="3">沟通，还是沟通！相信聪明的你一定可以搞定的。如果搞不定，就联合临床科室一起搞，如果，，就告诉她这个网站，我们帮你搞定。</font></p>[em05][em05][em05][em05]

safihu

<font size="5">储槽及布类包装还是有其存在的必要性......别弄得过犹不及了...不知道这个成语用对了没有??</font>

无极紫晶

<p><font size="5">过犹不及：</font>事情做得过头，就跟做得不够一样，都是不合适的。</p><p>成语用对了，“<font size="5">储槽及布类包装还是有其存在的必要性”</font><font size="3">也说的很有道理。</font></p><p><font face="Verdana" color="#61b713"><strong>战台风说的情况：“</strong><font color="#000000" size="5">一些使用频率非常快小器械非要用纸塑包装灭菌，要不然不给清洗!自己清洗打包。”<font size="4">就冲这一点，供应室的做法就是错误的！科室物品不送供应室清洗是科室的错误，但供应室不给清洗是供应室失职！医院感染专职人员完全可以根据医院制订的有关规定对供应室的失职行为进行处理！</font></font></font></p>

无极紫晶

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 32.15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 23pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 16.05pt; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span><strong>消毒供应中心管理规范</strong><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">第</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">稿</span><span><font face="Times New Roman">)<strong><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><p></p></strong></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 23pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">2006</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">15-17</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日会议修改</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">
                                </font></span></p></span><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><strong>第三条</strong></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">医疗机构应按照集中管理的方式，对所有重复使用并需要<font color="#ff0000" size="6">清洗消毒、灭菌</font>的诊疗器械、器具、物品集中<font color="#0000ff" size="6">由消毒供应中心处理</font>和供应。</span></p><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">从这个规范讨论稿可以看出，供应室的职责不仅仅是消毒、灭菌，还包括<font color="#ff0000" size="6">清洗。<font color="#000000" size="3">科室想自己洗都不行！所以，我们院感人员可以理直气壮地要求他洗，而且还不能凑合着洗必须要清洗合格，然后再消毒灭菌。</font></font></span></p><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">不知我的解释能不能帮助战台风解决问题，不妨一试哦！</span></p>

战台风

谢谢各位版主的鼎立相助!我还是协同临床科室的护士长与供应科护士长沟通.尽快把此事解决好!

safihu

<div class="quote"><b>以下是引用<i>无极紫晶</i>在2007-5-12 16:37:57的发言：</b><br/><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 32.15pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 23pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 16.05pt; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span><strong>消毒供应中心管理规范</strong><font face="Times New Roman">(</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">第</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">稿</span><span><font face="Times New Roman">)<strong><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><p></p></strong></font></span></p><p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 23pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">2006</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">年</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">7</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">月</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">15-17</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">日会议修改</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman"><br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></span></p></span><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><strong>第三条</strong></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">医疗机构应按照集中管理的方式，对所有重复使用并需要<font color="#ff0000" size="6">清洗消毒、灭菌</font>的诊疗器械、器具、物品集中<font color="#0000ff" size="6">由消毒供应中心处理</font>和供应。</span></p><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">从这个规范讨论稿可以看出，供应室的职责不仅仅是消毒、灭菌，还包括<font color="#ff0000" size="6">清洗。<font color="#000000" size="3">科室想自己洗都不行！所以，我们院感人员可以理直气壮地要求他洗，而且还不能凑合着洗必须要清洗合格，然后再消毒灭菌。</font></font></span></p><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">不知我的解释能不能帮助战台风解决问题，不妨一试哦！</span></p></div><p>好严格的晶版哦,不过还毕竟是个讨论稿,还有一点点不那么理直气壮.....嘿</p>[em05]

蓝天之旅

纸塑包装材料很贵，我们暂时未将其应用于临床